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	<title>Comments on: Smartone-Vodafone &amp; iPhone in Hong Kong</title>
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		<title>By: Enabling iPad WiFi on Cellular 3G Networks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enabling iPad WiFi on Cellular 3G Networks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] no longer need the iPhone WiFi Access Point.Thus far, at least the mobile carriers in Hong Kong, cannot tell the difference between regular iPhone data traffic and data traffic through the use of MyWi. I spoke to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] no longer need the iPhone WiFi Access Point.Thus far, at least the mobile carriers in Hong Kong, cannot tell the difference between regular iPhone data traffic and data traffic through the use of MyWi. I spoke to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vinko</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-18035</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That post of mine you commented on is when I was still using firmware 3.0. Although the revised hack for firmware 3.1 is suppose to be available very soon. Stay tuned here on my blog for more details when it becomes available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That post of mine you commented on is when I was still using firmware 3.0. Although the revised hack for firmware 3.1 is suppose to be available very soon. Stay tuned here on my blog for more details when it becomes available.</p>
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		<title>By: TY</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-18034</link>
		<dc:creator>TY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you get Tethering without jail breaking on the firmware 3.1?  I&#039;m on an official unlocked Apple-store HK iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you get Tethering without jail breaking on the firmware 3.1?  I&#39;m on an official unlocked Apple-store HK iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinko</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17713</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are talking about is the one that Brian Leung subscribed to last week.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smartone-vodafone.com/jsp/mobile/prices/hot_offer/english/priceoffer_05.jsp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HKD238/month Unlimited Plan&lt;/a&gt; requires a 18 month contract.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;According to all the small print this plan does offer unlimited HSDPA local data usage, which includes &quot;Internet Browsing&quot; (as defined by Smartone-Vodafone), data traffic from native iPhone apps that is not considered &quot;Internet Browsing&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the small print it explicitly indicates that this &quot;unlimited data&quot; does not include tethering, but as mentioned in other post. The way tethering is done on the iPhone, carrier should not able to tell the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are talking about is the one that Brian Leung subscribed to last week.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.smartone-vodafone.com/jsp/mobile/prices/hot_offer/english/priceoffer_05.jsp" rel="nofollow">HKD238/month Unlimited Plan</a> requires a 18 month contract.</p>
<p>According to all the small print this plan does offer unlimited HSDPA local data usage, which includes &#8220;Internet Browsing&#8221; (as defined by Smartone-Vodafone), data traffic from native iPhone apps that is not considered &#8220;Internet Browsing&#8221;.</p>
<p>In the small print it explicitly indicates that this &#8220;unlimited data&#8221; does not include tethering, but as mentioned in other post. The way tethering is done on the iPhone, carrier should not able to tell the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17712</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like smartone now has a reasonable unlimited data plan for $238 and it looks like it&#039;s real data, not just browsing data. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For some reason I can&#039;t copy and paste the link here but look under hot offers on the price plans section of their website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like smartone now has a reasonable unlimited data plan for $238 and it looks like it&#39;s real data, not just browsing data. </p>
<p>For some reason I can&#39;t copy and paste the link here but look under hot offers on the price plans section of their website.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinko</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17637</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had tested the Smartone-Vodafone downlink and uplinks at various locations. It varies from 1Mbps to 0.5Mbps on HSPDA. With tethering its range between 0.5Mbps and lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had tested the Smartone-Vodafone downlink and uplinks at various locations. It varies from 1Mbps to 0.5Mbps on HSPDA. With tethering its range between 0.5Mbps and lower.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffl00</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17636</link>
		<dc:creator>jeffl00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am considering getting a iphone 3gs soon, and i am looking for my best options for a service provider, I am curious about what kind of download and upload speeds you are getting while tethered to an iphone through vodaphone in hong kong. it would be great if you could go to a site like &lt;a href=&quot;http://speednet.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;speednet.net&lt;/a&gt; and test the connection speed and post the results.&lt;br&gt;thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am considering getting a iphone 3gs soon, and i am looking for my best options for a service provider, I am curious about what kind of download and upload speeds you are getting while tethered to an iphone through vodaphone in hong kong. it would be great if you could go to a site like <a href="http://speednet.net" rel="nofollow">speednet.net</a> and test the connection speed and post the results.<br />thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Vinko</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17631</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please don&#039;t get me wrong.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am definitely not belittling your offer to share your experience with Smartone-Vodafone. It is most definitely appreciated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When I say &quot;... it is a scam...&quot; I am referring to Smartone-Vodafone. Offering services that iPhone users may not be able to take advantage.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW: my monthly plan is neither of the currently available IOM Value Pack. Mine is the contract-free version of the plan, which is no longer available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>Please don&#39;t get me wrong.</p>
<p>I am definitely not belittling your offer to share your experience with Smartone-Vodafone. It is most definitely appreciated.</p>
<p>When I say &#8220;&#8230; it is a scam&#8230;&#8221; I am referring to Smartone-Vodafone. Offering services that iPhone users may not be able to take advantage.</p>
<p>BTW: my monthly plan is neither of the currently available IOM Value Pack. Mine is the contract-free version of the plan, which is no longer available.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leung</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17628</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t see why you have to label my experience with the plan I got as a scam. I am perfectly satisfied with the choice I made. Hasn&#039;t it occured to you that some people may want unlimited web browsing, that other people may have other priorities? I am just constructively laying out my rationale for choosing my plan - something which I don&#039;t see any reason for you to belittle. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, the 96/116 Value Packs I have looked at are fine, but like you said, those are base prices which means fees+surcharges have not yet been added - but you estimated your 116 plan to cost you at least HKD163/month. My price of HKD180 has included all the surchages already, 100MB local HSDPA and the unlimited browsing. Although it is approximately HKD17 more expensive (if not less) per month than your valuation, I thought with more minutes, 100MB local data free and unlimited web browsing  + youtube (I do surf quite a bit) it was a price jump I was willing to make. Some people may choose this option, but if they don&#039;t surf as much, then they don&#039;t. I just thought people should be aware that there is another viable alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t see why you have to label my experience with the plan I got as a scam. I am perfectly satisfied with the choice I made. Hasn&#39;t it occured to you that some people may want unlimited web browsing, that other people may have other priorities? I am just constructively laying out my rationale for choosing my plan &#8211; something which I don&#39;t see any reason for you to belittle. </p>
<p>Now, the 96/116 Value Packs I have looked at are fine, but like you said, those are base prices which means fees+surcharges have not yet been added &#8211; but you estimated your 116 plan to cost you at least HKD163/month. My price of HKD180 has included all the surchages already, 100MB local HSDPA and the unlimited browsing. Although it is approximately HKD17 more expensive (if not less) per month than your valuation, I thought with more minutes, 100MB local data free and unlimited web browsing  + youtube (I do surf quite a bit) it was a price jump I was willing to make. Some people may choose this option, but if they don&#39;t surf as much, then they don&#39;t. I just thought people should be aware that there is another viable alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinko</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17627</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you compare the voice minutes offered by either of the $96 or $116 IOM Value Packs? The base price of these two plans are much lower than your current plan even with your rebate. These two plans both include 600MB of &quot;Internet Browsing&quot; per month and I had never came close to its limit in the past 2 years. That is why paying a much higher price for &quot;Unlimited Internet Browsing&quot; is not worth it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is besides the point now as you had already committed to a 15 months contract. Although, your experience serves to let other readers know not to fall for any scams sales people at the stores have for the iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you compare the voice minutes offered by either of the $96 or $116 IOM Value Packs? The base price of these two plans are much lower than your current plan even with your rebate. These two plans both include 600MB of &#8220;Internet Browsing&#8221; per month and I had never came close to its limit in the past 2 years. That is why paying a much higher price for &#8220;Unlimited Internet Browsing&#8221; is not worth it.</p>
<p>It is besides the point now as you had already committed to a 15 months contract. Although, your experience serves to let other readers know not to fall for any scams sales people at the stores have for the iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leung</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17625</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vinko/Stephen: Can&#039;t seem to reply your previous posts. It&#039;s a 15-month contract, and it&#039;s not offered on their website just yet..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I see what you guys are saying about the extra data ($15/15MB), where it&#039;s better to pay as you go rather than lock myself for 100MB/month (incl in price of plan). But I think that since I would hover around 100MB or more anyway/month for these non-Internet Browsing apps, and with free rebate, the marginal cost of paying a couple dollars more for unlimited internet browsing seemed worth it. Without the free rebate, I would not have chosen this plan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess what you&#039;re trying to say is that the internet browsing on the iphone isn&#039;t as useful as the regular data allowance, but the prices of the two plans are quite similar. I&#039;ll let you know how it goes when I see the next phone bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinko/Stephen: Can&#39;t seem to reply your previous posts. It&#39;s a 15-month contract, and it&#39;s not offered on their website just yet..</p>
<p>I see what you guys are saying about the extra data ($15/15MB), where it&#39;s better to pay as you go rather than lock myself for 100MB/month (incl in price of plan). But I think that since I would hover around 100MB or more anyway/month for these non-Internet Browsing apps, and with free rebate, the marginal cost of paying a couple dollars more for unlimited internet browsing seemed worth it. Without the free rebate, I would not have chosen this plan.</p>
<p>I guess what you&#39;re trying to say is that the internet browsing on the iphone isn&#39;t as useful as the regular data allowance, but the prices of the two plans are quite similar. I&#39;ll let you know how it goes when I see the next phone bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinko</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17624</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you may have confused yourself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I had always recommended people subscribe to either of the standard $96 or #116 IOM Value Pack and nothing else.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;100MB will not be enough for a month to allow you to use the iPhone freely. It is much better to pay the $15/15MB as you need it rather than locking yourself into any of the other data added value service.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My current monthly bill for my non-contract VOM Value Pack is about HKD136 + HKD12 (MTR) + HKD120 = HKD268/month that&#039;s close to 600MB of Internet Browsing and about 120MB of extra data, On certain months I use much less than 120MB of extra data so my bill can be as low as HKD163/month.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You should not have took the unlimited &quot;Internet Browsing&quot; on the iPhone that is not as useful as having regular data allowance.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW: how long is the contract that you signed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you may have confused yourself.</p>
<p>I had always recommended people subscribe to either of the standard $96 or #116 IOM Value Pack and nothing else.</p>
<p>100MB will not be enough for a month to allow you to use the iPhone freely. It is much better to pay the $15/15MB as you need it rather than locking yourself into any of the other data added value service.</p>
<p>My current monthly bill for my non-contract VOM Value Pack is about HKD136 + HKD12 (MTR) + HKD120 = HKD268/month that&#39;s close to 600MB of Internet Browsing and about 120MB of extra data, On certain months I use much less than 120MB of extra data so my bill can be as low as HKD163/month.</p>
<p>You should not have took the unlimited &#8220;Internet Browsing&#8221; on the iPhone that is not as useful as having regular data allowance.</p>
<p>BTW: how long is the contract that you signed.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17623</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian - not sure if that plan is that great. Essentially you are pre paying your data usage. Just say you took the standard 3G plan at $128 (and there are cheaper plans available) add on the IOM plan at $28 then you are at $156. So if you use extra data smartone charges $15/15mb. So basically if you were to use 100mb then it takes you to $256 which is the price of your plan except that you are locked into paying it every month regardless of whether you use that much data. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For you it&#039;s cheaper cos of the $80 discount so is marginally worth it, but otherwise I don&#039;t think this plan is worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &#8211; not sure if that plan is that great. Essentially you are pre paying your data usage. Just say you took the standard 3G plan at $128 (and there are cheaper plans available) add on the IOM plan at $28 then you are at $156. So if you use extra data smartone charges $15/15mb. So basically if you were to use 100mb then it takes you to $256 which is the price of your plan except that you are locked into paying it every month regardless of whether you use that much data. </p>
<p>For you it&#39;s cheaper cos of the $80 discount so is marginally worth it, but otherwise I don&#39;t think this plan is worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leung</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17622</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Imap/Exchange mail do not fall under the &quot;internet browsing&quot; I assume. Thanks for the info. You&#039;ve been incredibly helpful..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just an FYI I did manage to find a plan with smartone-vodafone that allows me to have unlimited web-browsing and 100MB local HSDPA per month... it&#039;s not listed on the website but a sales person can introduce it to you. It&#039;s at 260 a month but the sales person gave me a free rebate from an HTC phone another customer bought to bring the price back down to around 180 a month which I thought was a fair deal. Ask about it if you already haven&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Imap/Exchange mail do not fall under the &#8220;internet browsing&#8221; I assume. Thanks for the info. You&#39;ve been incredibly helpful..</p>
<p>Just an FYI I did manage to find a plan with smartone-vodafone that allows me to have unlimited web-browsing and 100MB local HSDPA per month&#8230; it&#39;s not listed on the website but a sales person can introduce it to you. It&#39;s at 260 a month but the sales person gave me a free rebate from an HTC phone another customer bought to bring the price back down to around 180 a month which I thought was a fair deal. Ask about it if you already haven&#39;t!</p>
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		<title>By: Vinko</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17620</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the only thing that Smartone-Vodafone&#039;s billing system will consider as &quot;Internet Browsing&quot; are traffic from the iPhone native Safari and YouTube applications.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All other traffic will be counted as extra data (HSDPA) charge, which will be charged at the HKD15.00/15MB rate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DO NOT subscribe to any of the other VAS services that Smartone-Vodafone claims you need.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS: you should not be using POP3 email, you should always use IMAP or Exchange mail protocols. Using POP3 mail causes copies of your emails in multiple places, which is not want you want to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the only thing that Smartone-Vodafone&#39;s billing system will consider as &#8220;Internet Browsing&#8221; are traffic from the iPhone native Safari and YouTube applications.</p>
<p>All other traffic will be counted as extra data (HSDPA) charge, which will be charged at the HKD15.00/15MB rate.</p>
<p>DO NOT subscribe to any of the other VAS services that Smartone-Vodafone claims you need.</p>
<p>PS: you should not be using POP3 email, you should always use IMAP or Exchange mail protocols. Using POP3 mail causes copies of your emails in multiple places, which is not want you want to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leung</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17619</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let me get this right so we&#039;re all on the same page. Every function that comes with a just-opened iphone (youtube, itunes, appstore, maps, compass, stocks) except for mail (which uses POP3/exchange) is covered by the Internet usage allowance (600 MB or 20 MB/Day for IOM) while POP3/exchange mail is the only other application (that comes standard out of the box) cannot be used in this case - or it&#039;s goverened by the $15/15MB rule up to $298? Unless we pay the $30 surcharge to S-V monthly to use it right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get this right so we&#39;re all on the same page. Every function that comes with a just-opened iphone (youtube, itunes, appstore, maps, compass, stocks) except for mail (which uses POP3/exchange) is covered by the Internet usage allowance (600 MB or 20 MB/Day for IOM) while POP3/exchange mail is the only other application (that comes standard out of the box) cannot be used in this case &#8211; or it&#39;s goverened by the $15/15MB rule up to $298? Unless we pay the $30 surcharge to S-V monthly to use it right?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leung</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17617</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Vinko, I went to a Smartone-Vodafone store today to confirm this - they said all non-Safari based content (i.e. like the native YouTube, and Email) is counted as local HSDPA traffic (and is in my case limited to 100 mb a month). Also POP email will be counted as local HSPDA traffic.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This seems to differ from what your post says... Are you sure about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Vinko, I went to a Smartone-Vodafone store today to confirm this &#8211; they said all non-Safari based content (i.e. like the native YouTube, and Email) is counted as local HSDPA traffic (and is in my case limited to 100 mb a month). Also POP email will be counted as local HSPDA traffic.</p>
<p>This seems to differ from what your post says&#8230; Are you sure about this?</p>
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		<title>By: Vinko</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-20211</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am certain that Smartone-Vodafone&#039;s &quot;Internet Browsing&quot; covers all traffic through the Safari browser and YouTube native application.

Yes, it is true that all other traffic are counted as extra data charges outside of &quot;Internet Browsing&quot; traffic allowed.

PS: as I advised the other reader, Richard, never believe the sales people at the stores. 99% of them do not know the details, but only what the company tells them to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am certain that Smartone-Vodafone&#8217;s &#8220;Internet Browsing&#8221; covers all traffic through the Safari browser and YouTube native application.</p>
<p>Yes, it is true that all other traffic are counted as extra data charges outside of &#8220;Internet Browsing&#8221; traffic allowed.</p>
<p>PS: as I advised the other reader, Richard, never believe the sales people at the stores. 99% of them do not know the details, but only what the company tells them to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinko</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17616</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When I say &quot;... YouTube native application...&quot; I mean the application; the one with the old TV icon that came with every iPhone out-of-the-box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>When I say &#8220;&#8230; YouTube native application&#8230;&#8221; I mean the application; the one with the old TV icon that came with every iPhone out-of-the-box.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinko</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17615</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do not believe what Smartone-Vodafone staff tell you. They are only repeating information provided to them by the company and for some reason the company does not bother to verify the technical details before issuing information to their front line staff.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I had been using the iPhone 3G MMS and Tethering on Smartone-Vodafone network since iPhone firmware 3.0 was released by Apple. You can read my post &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.vinko.com/2009/06/15/mms-with-iphone-30-on-iphone-3g/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;MMS With iPhone 3.0 On iPhone 3G&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.vinko.com/2009/06/19/tethering-iphone-30/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tethering iPhone 3.0&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for details of how to accomplish this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since the iPhone 3GS was made available by Apple Hong Kong on July 10th, I had being using MMS and Tethering on Smartone-Vodafone on their network also.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, both of these features can be turned off by the carrier from without touching your phone or your SIM card, so for these to work you need to make sure both features are enabled for your account. The default is to enable them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>Do not believe what Smartone-Vodafone staff tell you. They are only repeating information provided to them by the company and for some reason the company does not bother to verify the technical details before issuing information to their front line staff.</p>
<p>I had been using the iPhone 3G MMS and Tethering on Smartone-Vodafone network since iPhone firmware 3.0 was released by Apple. You can read my post <a href="http://blog.vinko.com/2009/06/15/mms-with-iphone-30-on-iphone-3g/" rel="nofollow"><em>MMS With iPhone 3.0 On iPhone 3G</em></a> and <a href="http://blog.vinko.com/2009/06/19/tethering-iphone-30/" rel="nofollow"><em>Tethering iPhone 3.0</em></a> for details of how to accomplish this.</p>
<p>Since the iPhone 3GS was made available by Apple Hong Kong on July 10th, I had being using MMS and Tethering on Smartone-Vodafone on their network also.</p>
<p>Yes, both of these features can be turned off by the carrier from without touching your phone or your SIM card, so for these to work you need to make sure both features are enabled for your account. The default is to enable them.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17614</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great info.  I have a Smartone account currently and am buying an iPhone 3GS as soon as they&#039;re available.  I was told, by the Smartone sales people no less, that MMS and tethering would not work on the Smartone network because they didn&#039;t have the backend for it.  The MMS I can live without, but would definitely like the tethering.  So you&#039;re saying that tethering definitely works on the Smartone network then?  Just trying to figure out who has the best service and best price.  I&#039;ve heard horror stories about 3HK from all my friends who use it with and without an iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great info.  I have a Smartone account currently and am buying an iPhone 3GS as soon as they&#39;re available.  I was told, by the Smartone sales people no less, that MMS and tethering would not work on the Smartone network because they didn&#39;t have the backend for it.  The MMS I can live without, but would definitely like the tethering.  So you&#39;re saying that tethering definitely works on the Smartone network then?  Just trying to figure out who has the best service and best price.  I&#39;ve heard horror stories about 3HK from all my friends who use it with and without an iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Leung</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17612</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Leung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Vinko, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Any traffic through the Mobile Safari browser on the iPhone and any traffic from the use of the YouTube native application are all considered “Internet Browsing” according to the Smartone-Vodafone billing system...&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you mean the Youtube native application are you talking about the YouTube button (the one with the old TV as an icon) or just &lt;a href=&quot;http://Youtube.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Youtube.com&lt;/a&gt; on Safari</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Vinko, </p>
<p>&#8220;Any traffic through the Mobile Safari browser on the iPhone and any traffic from the use of the YouTube native application are all considered “Internet Browsing” according to the Smartone-Vodafone billing system&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>When you mean the Youtube native application are you talking about the YouTube button (the one with the old TV as an icon) or just <a href="http://Youtube.com" rel="nofollow">Youtube.com</a> on Safari</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17581</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;ve reported this to smartone and receivEd a phon call from them. They asked me the usual questions - what websites, when, which phone. I told her that it was a variety of websites at a variety of times and that smartone in has no problem. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She implied that the problems started since I started using the iPhone 3gs which is true but it really should not be due to the phone. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway I encourage anyone else having a problem to submit an email to them via &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:customer_service@smartone-vodafone.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;customer_service@smartone-vodafone.com&lt;/a&gt; so they can see it&#039;s a widespread problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#39;ve reported this to smartone and receivEd a phon call from them. They asked me the usual questions &#8211; what websites, when, which phone. I told her that it was a variety of websites at a variety of times and that smartone in has no problem. </p>
<p>She implied that the problems started since I started using the iPhone 3gs which is true but it really should not be due to the phone. </p>
<p>Anyway I encourage anyone else having a problem to submit an email to them via <a href="mailto:customer_service@smartone-vodafone.com" rel="nofollow">customer_service@smartone-vodafone.com</a> so they can see it&#39;s a widespread problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinko</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17569</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, me too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Had not encountered 500 in the past but since July 10th there have been much more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, me too.</p>
<p>Had not encountered 500 in the past but since July 10th there have been much more.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://blog.vinko.com/2009/07/15/smartone-vodafone-iphone-in-hong-kong/#comment-17566</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone found that Internet browsing on smartone these few days has been slow? I&#039;ve received a lot of 500 timeout errors. It&#039;s not the reception as browsing smartone IN is fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone found that Internet browsing on smartone these few days has been slow? I&#39;ve received a lot of 500 timeout errors. It&#39;s not the reception as browsing smartone IN is fast.</p>
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